So I have a RAW or a RAW+JPEG pair, I right-click, “Edit With…->App->Develop RAW”. I edit it in my photo editor app and export to a JPEG. The JPEG then shows up in Aspect, but not as a related file to the original. I don’t see any way to link it in the UI. Is there some location I need to put it or way I need to name it for it to be linked?
We’ve thought about including a function for manually fixing the missing link a few times in the past, but never reached a conclusion for how to best design the UI for this. Maybe we can implement the simplest possible approach as a start, which would be to require selecting the original and the edited file and then offering a simple menu entry to make the connection. This would then assume that the file with the oldest file modification time is the original and the other is the edited variant (and possible some other clues, such as that RAWs are always originals).
It should be noted that some applications (Photoshop and Affinity Photo included) do support the corresponding standard XMP metadata fields and just work as expected, whereas other applications completely ignore and remove these fields (and often other metadata fields, too), which means that there is no way to reliably associate the edited image with the original anymore.
I’ve opened an internal ticket to keep track of this (#1550).
Want to follow up on this item, as I am having a similar issue with export from Lightroom and DXO Photolab 9. Currently Aspect is unable to link two kinds of variants with either of these RAW editors:
- Any edits to the photo that has been made to the RAW file (without export)
- Linking the newly exported file (JPG/PNG/etc) to the original RAW
Are there any thoughts for current workflows that would made Aspect more friendly with Lightroom/Photolab in terms of detecting variants? Happy to make workaround adjustments on my side until a fix is figured out.
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Hi,
Also having the same issues, my workflow is jpg+raw, which is correct most of the times, but sometimes it gets the link between jpg and raw wrong (don’t see why just yet, could test to see if I can find a pattern)
Problem start when I process my camera raw (ORF/Olympus) with dxo pure raw. I create a new name for a new raw/jpg pair (e.g. original-001), the raw is now a DNG file out of dxo pure raw. Somehow, Aspect still links the new jpg to the original ORF file, which is off course not what I want.
As a sidenote, Aspect is almost completely what I was looking for in a DAM/front-end for raw processing (main processor being on1, but for high ISO I need pure raw for the quality). It is way quicker and looks way better than the built in browser in on1
I’ll have a look at the situation with the processed DxO RAW files. I’ve been testing Pure RAW the other day, but unfortunately don’t think that I have any of the test files anymore. If you have the chance to upload a set of test pictures (original RAW/JPEG + processed RAW/JPEG and any .xmp files that might have been created), I’ll have a look at what exactly is stored in the metadata and where the detected relationships between the files are possibly off in Aspect.
Just wanted to post an update. I re-started Aspect from zero on my Mac (having migrated from PC) and I am no longer having this issue. Not sure if everyone above was also on a PC, but maybe there’s an OS component to this problem.
following up on the original post, it would be nice if not only JPEG+RAW files could be linked, but also other file types.
For example, I am trying Affinity and I have a bunch of .afphoto files with me now, that would be nice to link in the Aspect library.
Affinity Photo files are a really good point, since – (in contrast to Photoshop) being a completely closed format – there is no way to determine the source file(s) from the outside, so this will probably always be the only potential way to achieve that.
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